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L3 guys punching the air after spending an extra 2k for an extra 10 fom

Sad.

What’s it like shooting with a bridged unit?

Is there any way to get a non-wifi version?

Some light would make your reviews better guys

They don't look like they're turned on.

Matches with what I've heard about Elbit and L3 that their tubes do better in low-light conditions. But for the average consumer, that 4G tube is pretty good

You guys must be smoking weed to think Photonis tubes looks similar to L3 and Elbit tubes in low light when they don't!

This is why I paired my 14 with thermal it needs no light to see

@arkayne what scope mount is that. My primary arms scope mount is too low and doesn’t line up

Exactly what I needed to hear! Mahalo

If I'm cross eye dominant, do you suggest me to keep the PVS on my non-dominant side(right eye) and shoot(passively) with my right hand, since it's my dominant arm? Btw. I tried putting my PVS over my right eye, which is my non-dominant eye and aim with my left hand - BAC(Bindon aiming concept), I overlay the images, I see the dot through the monocular, buuut my shots are going 1 feet to right of the target(idk why, but I guess that's the thing you were referring in the video about - it just doesn't work ;d) So, I stick to the passive aiming.

Dave spitting truth!

I have everything checked off, aside from the fiscal position. My personal finances are tight after a few surprises earlier this year. However, I think NVGs are a must, especially if you live in an urban area. NVG30 looks like the first affordable digital solution that offers any real practicality. So I just took that plunge.

What height of mount should I take for LPVO to work properly with the rico25 + PICTAIL + MQD mount set?

Calling it an ecoti killer is an exaggeration.

Hey, I’m in Central Texas and I just got my PVS 14 outfitted with a boom slang lens. I had it done by Custom Night Vision in the Houston area. Can’t really tell the difference because I have nothing to compare it to. What I do recognize is that it is only the Lens that is 25% bigger. Am I wrong? And can you explain that to me? Thanks. KK

I’ve had a fairly easy time merging the two images so far. Having said this I’ve only had my complete dual band setup for a couple weeks. The caveat is that unlike most people I’m ambidextrous and as a child wrote with both hands. I also don’t have a wholly dominant eye although I slightly favor my right eye. The cropping feature on the flir breach as well as the rayvn group rail also help with lining up the images over one another. The lag of the thermal does create some “trails” on moving targets but anyone with experience with psychedelics knows that can be overcome mentally. And it looks pretty bitchin

3D printed housing Nice ! 😊

You made some really good points and finding videos that discuss what spec sheets really mean are hard to find, especially with examples like in your dark room. Ask the average NVG dude what's your SNR and EBI and what do they mean and they'll look at you with the labrador head tilt. You guys could probably get quite a few views if you did a "This is what each number on your spec sheet means, and why it's important" video. Definitely forwarding this to my cousins that live down the hill, they've been wanting NVGs but have been scared away from dropping the dollar on "Budget" tubes.

what mount do you use to link up with the PVS-14? Thanks

The argument about it being too bright falls apart because most of us with L3 high gain tubes also have manual gain. The Photonis does do great with lots of ambient light but we aren’t buying night vision for seeing where there’s lots of ambient light.

L3 unfilmed rocks(but i really think you meed manual gain), but elbit and Photonis work well and have their own perks! Get whats in your budget and run it

How much are those I wonder lol. Certainly more than i can afford 🫤

How difficult is it to come by parts for that model?

What’s the easiest way to collimate my skeetIR and PVS14?

I still like mine better

Hell yeah

😂😂😂😂😂😂

Only $9,999

LOL...my old Omni7 tube outperforms my XW3240A 4G+ (2300FOM) in every condition... But a 4G+ costs roughly $4k or something? And the Omni7 non-aviation grade would cost below $1.2k!

At least I know I can wear it over my dominant eye because Im a cross dominant shooter ie im naturally right handed by my right eye is bad so I shoot left handed when I have to shoulder anything.

Just played a 24 hour milsim with a ST-6 and bridged PVS-14. It wasn’t even fair. Lots of opfor with NVGs. We just laid in the bush roadside and ambushed multiple squads while watching them gagglefyck down the road. You can’t hide, even in the bush. It was a rainy dark night. I’m so impressed

L3 Unfilmed is king. Photonis is still sick though and more than useable.

These work on Jerry 14s?

Video is to dark. Viewing from phone isn't good.

And give it to lew red so he can go shoot targets

Ohh yee

No, thank you!

👌🏽I got one of those EGOs to pair with my Sig canebrake🤙🏽🤙🏽

Love your guys content and have binged every episode as I am getting ready to pull the trigger on a nv/th setup. While i appreciate the effort on this one i am sure you realize you choked on the target laying in 3’ of grass and then waving his arms is hardly a convincing comparison….. mostly because it was easy to see both nv and th with a target waving. Anyhow I have a consult in my cart and i think you will find my use case intriguing. ( currently using a $200k FLIR system in marine environment.

At least we can all agree that digital night vision isn't even a part of this debate. Lol

Yes. NOD $nobs, or the 'How can I respect you when you haven't even crossed the 10K price point yet? ' bunch. I went hermit because of 'those people'. Snobs. They ruin everything.

With the prices of tubes now, I just don’t find photonis worth it anymore. Prices went up and now they’re neck to neck with some mid tier spec Elbit tube. What I can pay for an elbit tube that can see juuuuuuuuust that more in lower light? I’m gonna pay it if it’s not that much more, if not - the same price as not even a photonis 4g, but even a photonis echo. I don’t even know where to buy a 4g tube. Everyone offers echos and supply on those is low. If 4g tubes were just under that elbit price point and available? Dude, count me in I’d run those all day (sorry, night) long! But…that’s not the world we live in. I know you guys aren’t shilling. I know the feeling when you really believe in a product, but to pay for relatively the same for 4G tubes (because the echos in this test just looked worse than Omni 8 tubes I have), when I can get a bit more with an elbit or L3 tube? Come on. Out of band capability is freaking sick, but not my priority in nods. If photonis 4g tubes were more available, and were priced more reasonable compared to the others? I’d be singing a different song right now. I’m seeing 2200 for the echos rn but 2400 for good spec elbit xlsh? That’s where you lose me to come to the photonis side.

I would love to go predator hunting with this, too bad I'm poor.

I was looking at options for night ops and I have learnt a few things. Long range would require a dedicated scope with a unsophisticated reticle. Since the clip-ons are horrible with higher magnification. I just want a do it all single unit for both long and short range. There isn't that much of a difference between a clip-on and a dedicated unit in terms of price (short to mid range). What I'm thinking right now it that I would need a monocular white phosphor. A 556 with a LPVO and clip-on and then a 308 (or something with a longer range) with two uppers and two different scopes. This is lunacy and a pain to carry. Why don't we mount these behind the scopes?

Really great scientific comparison and good discussion, thank you!

I love my 14's no matter what i can supply someone else with one and a magnifier and capabilities go up i have one of my 7's set up with a magnifier as well as a dedicated observation unit

l3 is a dogshit value, but creaming your pants over "muh izlid" is very autistic and indicative of shilling